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    THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL: WHO ARE THEY? WHERE ARE THEY? HOW CAN THEY BE IDENTIFIED?

    Raspy Rawls
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    THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL: WHO ARE THEY? WHERE ARE THEY? HOW CAN THEY BE IDENTIFIED? Empty THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL: WHO ARE THEY? WHERE ARE THEY? HOW CAN THEY BE IDENTIFIED?

    Post  Raspy Rawls Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:32 am

    To answer these questions, we have made a long and careful search of the Holy Bible and have
    concluded that the Israelites (Jews) are in fact a Black People.

    We arrived at this conclusion by reasons such as the color of the Israelites (Jews) of the Bible,
    and most noteworthy, the Bad Treatment and Continuous Bad Conditions that were prophesied
    to befall the real Israelites if they fail to keep the laws and commandments of God. God
    promised the Israelites that if they failed to obey him, he would curse them and eventually have
    them removed from their land and carried as slaves into every nation upon the earth. Israel failed,
    and God kept his promise.

    After the Israelites were removed from the land of Israel, it was left as an empty house with no
    inhabitants. Now, if one can understand that any land which has been emptied of it's rightful
    owners can be claimed by any nationality of people that have the power or permission to settle in
    it and possess it, then it should also be easy to understand that the nationality of people which
    move in and take over the land can assume (adopt) the culture, history, and even call themselves
    by the name of the people that they have replaced. After a long period of years, that nationality
    would be accepted by the rest of the world as being the original and rightful inhabitants of that
    land. This would especially be true if the original people of the land had been moved by force,
    and carried off as slaves. Such is the case of the real Israelites (Jews)!
    It is very easy to become lost when someone else is called by your name and is living in your
    land, while you have been carted off into slavery and are called by the name of the people of
    whatever nation you are found. After being in slavery for a long period of years, and throughout
    generations, it would be impossible for your children to remember their history. How can they
    remember what they were never taught?

    Black History (The Holy Bible) tells us that there were two sons born to Isaac and to Rebekah,
    his wife. These two boys were struggling in their mother's womb even before they were born,
    and Rebekah asked the Lord why they were struggling. The Lord answered her, telling her that
    there were two different nations and two different manner of people in her womb and that he
    would separate them at birth. (See Genesis 25 chapter, vs. 21-25).

    When the oldest son was born, the Bible says he was Red and Hairy, and was given the name
    Esau, but was later also called by the name of Edom. The youngest son was named Jacob, with
    no reference made to his color. His name was later changed to Israel. The fact being that such
    emphasis was put on Esau's appearance makes it clear that God had made more than just
    personality differences between the two boys!

    As these two boys matured, there grew dislike between them because Esau claimed that Jacob
    stole his birthright. Therefore, Esau vowed to kill Jacob. As they developed into nations down
    through the generations, settling in different locations (Jacob in the land of Israel, which was
    named after him: and Esau in the land of Edom, also called and known as Mt. Seir), the children
    (descendants) of Esau were responsible for the death of many Israelites. Some times later, down
    through the generations, the children of Esau were able to take over the land of the children of
    Jacob, and to claim that they were the lost tribes of Israel. After taking the name and the land of
    the true Israelites, it was only a matter of time before the whole world accepted the children of
    Esau as being the lost tribes of Israel, (which is presently the case). Meanwhile, the true Israelites
    are still in captivity just as the Lord said they would be.

    Being that we understand the origin, fate, and destination of both the descendants of Jacob and of
    Esau , we can say with proof , according to the Bible, that the whole world has accepted the
    descendants of Esau as being the Jews, but in truth they are not, but are really the descendants of
    Esau (Edom).

    When Esau (the father of the Edomites) and Jacob (the father of the Jews) were born, the Bible
    describes Esau as being “red and hairy.” Later, in other scriptures, Jacob, whose name was
    changed to Israel, was compared to the Ethiopians - "Are ye not as the children of Ethiopia unto
    me, O children of Israel?" (Amos 9:7). Ethiopia comes from the Greek word Aithiop, which
    means dark skin/ or face. The difference between "dark skin" and "red and hairy" is quite
    distinct, and has not changed down through the generations.

    Now let us reason together. Understanding that Ethiopia comes from the Greek word Aithiop,
    which means “dark skin”, let us look at the description of Jesus in Revelation 1:14. "His
    head and his hairs were whit like wool, as white as snow: and his eyes were as a flame of fire,”
    (which only means they were red), "and his feet like fine brass, as if they were burned in a
    furnace." (Also see Rev. 1:18). Any rational minded person would understand that Jesus was not
    two colors, having a white head and a black or burnt (Aithiop) body. Reasoning will also cause
    you to understand that his hair is white and wooly, and his body and skin is like the Ethiopians
    (Dark Skin).

    Song of Solomon 1:5-6, in the book of the Song of Solomon, we see the writing of Solomon
    where the Bible states, "The song of songs, which is Solomon's (meaning that Solomon himself
    made all statements in this particular book): and I quote, "I am Black, but comely, O ye
    daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me
    because I am Black, because the sun hath looked upon me. "Most people think this is just a love
    story Solomon wrote, but in reality this is describing the relationship between God and his
    people.

    There are other things written that describe color, such as Acts 13:1 where a prophet was called
    Niger, which means black. Niger is the word that nigger comes from. Also in Exodus 4:6 where
    Moses' hand turn leprous (as white as snow) and Numbers 12:13 where Miriam, Moses' sister,
    was turned white. Leviticus tells us that there are two kinds of leprosy: one is unclean leprosy,
    when there is raw or swollen skin in the flesh: the other is clean leprosy, when a person simply
    turns white all over. Now, honestly ask yourself, why would a white person get excited about
    turning white? But, if a black person turns white, that's something else! (See Leviticus 13:12-
    13).

    There are even more scriptures on color, and there are also other things written concerning the
    true Israelites (Jews). Things like going into captivity, being sold as slaves, dispersed all over the
    world, and forever living as a poor people being badly treated.
    The God of Israel (The God of the Bible) pronounced a sentence upon Israel. He told them that if
    they would not keep his laws and abide by his rules, he would curse them, telling them exactly
    what would befall them. Israel broke his laws and did not keep his rules, so the Lord cursed them
    as he said he would. (See Deuteronomy 28th chapter).

    In the 28th chapter, it should be understood that a lot of these things happened over the course of
    many years, continuing down to our time. Because this curse was pronounces upon us when
    Israel first became a nation, many of these curses occurred before our time and we don't
    recognize some of them, but some we do. Those we recognize are the ones that we will point out.
    The Lord said these curses will be upon us for a sign and wonder; (sign means to identify and
    wonder is to ask why). See Deuteronomy 28, verses 28-30: "the Lord shall smite thee with
    madness", meaning you will be constantly angry because of the conditions; "blindness", having
    no knowledge of your history and self; "astonishment of heart", meaning always greatly
    surprised and amazed at your condition; "thou shalt grope at noonday as the blind gropeth in
    darkness", meaning to feel about or search or seek with blindness, and not certain or don't know
    what you are looking for (as if you were looking for something in a dark place and had no light);
    "thou shall not prosper in thy ways; and thou shall be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and
    no man shall save thee; thou shall betroth a wife and another man shall lie with her; thou shall
    build a house and thou shall not dwell therein; thou shalt plant vineyards and shalt not gather the
    grapes thereof", meaning you work, but someone else will reap the proceeds; "thy sons and thy
    daughters shall be given unto another people and thine eyes shall look and fail with longing for
    them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand", meaning your children will be
    sold and you will see them being sold by someone else and will not be able to do anything about
    it (remember Roots and "Slave Trading"); "the fruit of thy land and all thy labors shall a nation
    which thou knowest not eat up: and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway.....thou shalt
    be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see."

    Now just look around you, and look back at what happened to black people and what is
    happening to black people. Now, are we getting a fair chance, or equal opportunity to excel as
    the whites or the so-called Jews? Why is it that the so-called Jews are granted immediate
    citizenship when they migrate from other parts of the world? Why is it that any other nationality
    or race of people is accepted into this country, granted citizenship, and is exempted from paying
    taxes for a set period of years? The latest, among the foreigners that were granted this luxury are
    the Cubans, which are mostly Castilian, but the Haitians from the island of Haiti, which are
    blacks (part of the lost tribes of Israel) were caged up like animals and sent back to their
    oppression. Also, consider the poor blacks here, (being that the majority of us are worse off than
    a lot of immigrants), who were brought here against our will. Why aren't we exempted from
    paying taxes for the same period of years? Why aren't we compensated for now our ancestors
    were treated in the past? Have you ever wondered about these things? Surely you can't say it's
    because we are equally treated as the white American born citizens. Have you ever wondered
    why there are places like Haiti, Jamaica, South America and the Bahamas? Did you know that
    all of those places were slave camps, and that blacks were carried there to work and to produce
    while the whites reaped the proceeds! The Bible prophesied this concerning Israel/Jews Black
    Americans and blacks from the above mentioned slave camps must be Israelites then!

    When slavery was abolished (chattel slavery), black people assumed self rule after their masters
    were forced to release them Either blacks did not know their real home, or did not have the
    means to return. If they did know, they did not have any army or the power to kick out the
    foreigners that possessed their land. See Deuteronomy 28: 36-37. "The Lord shall bring thee and
    thy king unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known and there shall thou serve
    other gods, wood and stone", (gods which are not backed up with the Bible, and holy days, such
    as Easter and Christmas, of which the Bible makes no mention as holy to God); And thou shalt
    become an astonishment" (a great surprise and amazement to other races of people around you);
    " a proverb" (a short wise saying used for a long time by many people, a well known case); In
    our case, we have been called for a long time, names such as nigger, coon, shine, john, boy, lazy,
    smelly, nasty, etc.; "and a byword " (an object of contempt, a thing scorned, and a common
    saying). Now ask, are blacks scorned? Are we a common conversation, such as... Those niggers
    this, and those niggers that? Are we a people (objects) of contempt? Who cares for us or our
    rights? Who tries to help us without wanting to use us for their own personal gain/goal? What
    harm have we done to organizations such as the Ku-Klux-Klan, to any of the majority of whites,
    or to other nationalities for them to hate us so? Why are we disliked and scorned and in some
    cases assaulted for asking for the smallest civil rights that whites are born with, and foreigners
    are given, with help, when they migrate to this or any other country? It's a case of: if we do
    wrong we are damned, and if we do right we are damned. I thank God that I know the whole
    truth of the matter, and that there is an appointed end. Because if salvation was the way it's being
    taught in most churches, if I had no knowledge of God's true plan, and of this temporary curse
    that is upon the blacks (the real Israelites/Jew), then I could understand why some people stay
    drunk, take drugs, or use other means of trying to blind themselves to the reality of our true and
    unchangeable condition. In some cases, death would be more merciful.

    Deuteronomy 28:41, Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy them, for they
    shall go into captivity" (slavery). Vs.43, "The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee
    very high, and thou shalt come down very low"; (which is to say that all of the people that were
    among the Israelites, but not Israelites themselves, are going to excel while the Israelites fall to
    the bottom). "He shall lend to thee, (Vs.44), and thou shalt not lend to him; he shall be the head
    and thou shall be the tail". Now consider what this is saying. Can blacks as a people lend
    money to anyone? Where are our big corporations? Where are our big chain businesses? Where
    are our banks? Now consider the people called Jews, who the world has accepted as being Jews.
    Do they have big corporations, chain businesses, and banks?

    For a people that are supposed to be poor and not able to loan money, those people that the world
    knows as Jews are doing pretty well. In fact, there used to be a household saying among black
    families on payday - "I got to go pay those Jews". Either these people are not the real Jew of the
    Bible, or the Bible is grossly misprinted. Consider the scriptures and judge for yourself.
    As we continue, see Joel 3:1, "For behold, in those days and at that time when I shall bring again
    the captivity (captives) of Judah and Jerusalem (Israelites/Jews), Vs.2 , I will also gather all
    nations, and bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat and will plead with them there for
    my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted
    my (land of Israel), Vs.3, and they have cast lots for my people and given a boy for an harlot, and
    sold a girl for wine, that they might drink, Vs. 4. What have you to do with me, O Tyre, and
    Zidon, and all the coast of Palestine (Middle East)? Will you render me a recompense (pay me
    back/repay me)? And if you recompense (repay) me, swiftly and speedily will I return your
    recompense upon your own head, Vs. 5, Because you have taken my silver and my gold, and
    have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things, Vs. 6. The children also of Judah and
    the children of Jerusalem Israelites) have ye sold unto the Grecians (Greeks), that you might
    remove them far from their border".

    In Joel 3:1-3, the Lord is speaking of the time when he will return the real Jews to their own
    Country. Vs. 2 is saying that at the same time the Lord will gather all nations in one place to
    plead with them (do battle) because of what they have done to the real Jews- because they have
    captured and sold them (the real Jews), and the whole coast of Palestine/ Middle East have taken
    their possessions, and divided the Jews' land among themselves. In Vs.3 and 4 the Lord is telling
    all of these nations that whatever they would repay him, it is not enough for what they have done
    to his people. Therefore, if they try to repay him, he will return it upon their own head. Why?
    Because the nations (all nations) have taken the real Jews and cast lots for them (bided for
    them/or auctioned them off like animals), and given a boy for an harlot (men traded or gave slave
    boys instead of money in payment to sleep with a prostitute), and sold a slave girl for wine
    (traded a young girl for some liquor). Vs. 5 and 6. The nations have taken valuables and riches of
    the real Jews and carried them into their own temples, and have taken the Jews themselves and
    sold them to the sons of the Greeks, and to other nations, and removed them far from their own
    borders. See Zechariah 11:4, "Thus saith the Lord my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter, Vs. 5, whose
    possessors slay them and hold themselves not guilty; and they that sell them say, blessed be the
    Lord, for I am rich; and their own shepherds pity them not."

    This scripture is very clear, and lets you know that whosoever owned the real Jews would kill
    them if they felt like it, and wouldn't think that they had done anything wrong (for instance: Kill
    an old slave that couldn't work anymore, or one that they thought was rebellious, or one whose
    will they could not break). Historically, the various hate groups didn't feel that they were wrong
    when they burned crosses in front of blacks' homes, hung them, or castrated and maimed them
    for sport. Even in these modern days, who cares if a young or old black is shot by a white person,
    or another black for that matter? Who cares how many black women get raped or how many
    blacks are killed by police officers? No real investigations are made to find the true criminal or
    the reason why. Just read the statistics and you will find that the highest mortality rate in the
    nation is among young Black males. Or look at the sympathy that Cubans and other non-black
    immigrants get when entering this country. Then look at the non-sympathetic help that Haitians
    (blacks) get when they are fleeing into this country to escape oppression and death. I could write
    page upon page concerning the guiltless feelings of people who kill blacks (so-called Negroes or
    African-Americans).

    The scripture in Zechariah 11:5 states that their possessors (slave owners) sold them and thanked
    and blessed God because they became rich for doing so. Just look and consider the many nations
    and their histories. They all profess to be great "Christians" nations not only tolerated slave
    traders that packed black people in holes of ships (most of which died) en route to the market,
    but they also rushed to the market and cast their bid for the strongest and fittest that made it. Yes,
    as a slave trader, riches were dedicated by the amount he could buy. The majority of these people
    professed to be God-fearing Christians and probably sat in church every Sunday, yet none felt
    guilty (and this included America, England, France, Greece, Rome, and all so-called Christians
    and Moslem nations as well). Also, in the same 5th verse, it states that their (the real Jews)
    shepards pity them not. How is that so? Just look at all of the black churches in America and in
    other nations. They don't truly care about their own people! They fill their collection plates and
    treasuries with the hard-earned money of poor blacks, build larger and fancier churches so they
    can have more room and more "sheep" to fleece, and put on all kinds of programs (gimmicks) to
    increase their flow of money. Then they buy big cars to drive to their big churches to show their
    flocks how nice they have been to their shepherds. The flocks love it, and they increase their
    donations. The height or riches of a shepherd (preacher) are dedicated by the size of his
    congregation or church!

    If their/our shepherds pitied us (the real Jews), they would consolidate some of that wealth that
    they acquired from their flocks, and build factories so that the black unemployment can be
    decreased or almost eliminated. They would sponsor housing developments so that blacks can
    move out of some of these rat and roach infested flop houses; or better yet, they (poor blacks)
    would be able to purchase homes with the income earned from church-created factories. Most of
    all, the pastors in these churches would teach the truth and stop telling people that God is
    coming to take you off to heaven, when God clearly states that he is coming to the earth (Zechariah
    14:1-11, Revelation 5: 9-10, Revelation 21: 1-2). Even Jesus said clearly that no man has gone to
    heaven except he that came from heaven. He was speaking of himself (see St. John 3:13). Also,
    such un-truths as Jesus died on Friday and rose on Easter Sunday, and that Jesus was born on the
    25th of December along with many other lies would cease to be taught if the shepherds cared.
    See Isaiah 56: 9-12, the Lord talks about these same shepherds that have no pity for their own
    people.

    The Bible tells us that the Israelites (real Jews) would be incarcerated (in prison) in great
    numbers, see Isaiah 42:22-23, "But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them
    snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a
    spoil, and none saith, restore." Now ask yourself what people do you know that is a minority in
    the country but a majority in the penal institution (jail)? Even the Lord wanted to know who in
    the future would see this kind of condition and recognize that this is talking about the
    real Israelites (blacks). Vs. 23, "who among you will give ear to this? Who will hearken and hear
    for the time to come?"

    Read the book of Obadiah, and it will tell you how the Israelites (real Jews) were captured and
    carried out of the land of Israel as slaves (captives) and how the nations went in and parted the
    land among them. It clearly states that Edom, the descendants of Esau (those who currently claim
    to be Jews), caught those of the real Jews that did escape, and delivered them into the hands of
    the enemy. They also went into the gates of the Jews (cities) and laid hands on their substance
    (possessions, culture, books, etc.).

    Also, see Ezekiel chapters 35-36, the Edomites (those who claim to be Jews), which are also
    known and called by the names of Mount Seir, Bozrah, Teman, and Idumea, are spoken against
    by the Lord. The Lord tells of how they shed the blood of the Israelites (Jews), and said, "These
    two nations and these two countries (speaking of Judah and Samaria) shall be theirs (Edom's) in
    possession, and they will possess it, whereas the Lord was there."

    The 36th chapter of Ezekiel tells us that Edom has done just that! For the Lord said, "Thus said
    the Lord God, because the enemy has said, aha, even the ancient high places are ours in
    possession." Read on and the Lord will tell you that they (Idumea, which is still Edom) have
    appointed his land (land of Israel) into their possession with the joy of all their heart, and with
    despiteful minds to cast it out for a prey.

    But ask yourself, why do the people that the world has accepted as being the Jews, have such
    hard times, such as the trouble they had with Germany and the trouble with the Arab nations?
    Because of what they did to the real Jews, that's why! See Obadiah 9th and 10th verses and read
    on. Also, see Ezekiel 35:6-15. The Lord said "when the whole world rejoiceth", he will make
    Edom most desolate.

    Lastly, I refer you to Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. The Lord, in both of these places speaks of a people
    that say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; but they are the Synagogue of Satan. Note that the
    Lord said also that he knows the work and the tribulations and poverty of the real Jews (but he
    said, “Thou art rich”). Reasoning tells us that no people, or person, can be rich and impoverished
    at the same time. But the riches of the people of God (the blacks-the real Jew) are his promise to
    lift the curse off of us in the time appointed, and to restore us to our former estate. Plus no one
    can say that the people known and accepted as Jews (the descendants of Edom) are in poverty;
    consider this publication closely and reason with the Bible whether or not it makes sense.
    To those that read this, be it known and understood that this is not hate, neither does the writer
    teach or believe in hate, nor condone it.

    This is merely designed to identify the lost people of Israel and the facts according to the Holy
    Bible. If anyone is to be hated, it should be our ancestors for sinning against God, because he
    clearly told them what would happen if they broke his laws.
    Be it known also that we believe in, and teach, all of the Holy Bible: from Genesis to Revelation,
    and that we acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God, and that he is God. Also, we only teach what
    we can prove (through scriptures).

    In the name of the God of Israel, the Holy One of Israel, I bid the true believers God speed.

    FOR MORE LESSONS GOTO http://theisraelofgod.com/textlessons.html
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    Post  epitome1920 Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 pm

    Looking forward to the Black History lessons from Brother Buie.

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