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    Raspy Rawls
    Raspy Rawls

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    Post  Raspy Rawls on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:22 am

    May the Lord have a blessing to the reading!! I pray that you are able to read this with great understanding, to where you are able to take and use this in your life. In YAH Name, Amen!!

    Ok now let’s get to it haha lol.... This breakdown has been in the making for sometimes, and now must be the perfect time because God has brought us here. The reason behind me presenting this piece, is because I was running into people whose foundation on the scriptures were wrong. Being that their foundation was wrong, they attempted to make comparisons, or quote things, that could not make sense in the context they were attempting to use them. Everywhere I look, I see people who have this understanding that the SON came FROM Mary. With this understanding, it leads them to make comparisons with other deities believing they came before HE did. In this scriptural breakdown I will show that the SON came THROUGH Mary, and has been here from the beginning.

    We’re going to start in the first chapter of John. As usual, I will post the scriptures, because I know you’re too lazy to go read them Laughing . And that’s something we must ALL work on…. John 1:1-4, 14-15
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    2 The same was in the beginning with God.
    3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.
    4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    Here we see that the Word has been here since the BEGINNING. The Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God.
    Now skip down to verses 14 -15
    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
    15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
    The Word was made into flesh. This was when HE came THROUGH Mary. How do we know that? Because it states the Word was the glory as of the only begotten of the FATHER, and HE lived among John and them. Something else happened here tho. John told you that this was who he spoke of that would come after him, but was chose before him. Why, cause HE was here before John. HE created everything remember in verse 3 it said HE made ALL things. Let's take a look at when HE made ALL things in the beginning. Genesis 1:26-28
    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    Now let's remember, The Word that was in the beginning, and WAS God, created ALL things. So when you see in verse 26 where it says, "Let US make man in OUR image". That's the Father And The Son talking, not the Father talking to himself lol. Some know this but some don't, but when your foundation in the scriptures become firm, you'll start to understand that Genesis 1 is the blueprint on how the world was created. In the recently posted scriptures something else happened that people overlook. In 28 the very first commandment was given, BE FRUITFUL, AND MULTIPLY, AND REPLENISH THE EARTH!! Anything that God said to do or not to do, is a commandment. There's no if, and, buts, or maybes. It's plain and clear cut. This is why same sex marriage is being pushed so hard upon everyone. To have you being disobedient. If it was about making people equal, why everyone wasn't treated equal before this? This is genocide they are pushing, but that's another breakdown, let's keep it moving. This same 28th verse also kills the talk that the earth is only 6,000 years old. If our first commandment is to REPLENISH the earth, something had to be here before us, DUHHHHH lol. Fossil fuel ring a bell to anyone. Yeah dinosaurs were here before us, and were drowned. Genesis 1:9
    9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
    The dry land appeared from out of the water. That pressure is what buried those dinosaur's bones into rocks and everything else.... Just wanted to clear that up lol. Moving right along.... We're gonna stay in Genesis, but hop to 2:8-9
    8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
    9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
    Here we see where God makes a distinguish that the tree's of life, and of knowledge of good and evil, did not come from out the ground. That is because satan, the dragon, that evil serpent, is represented by the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and God is represented by the tree of life. It's a parable. People will have you believing Eve talked to a snake, and ate an apple, and became aware of things afterwards. If that's the case, can someone pretty pretty pretty please bring me a bag of apples so I won't have to research anymore lol. Now we all know Eve listened to the satan, but she did not eat an apple. The fruit that she ate was the fruit of lies. Hosea 10:13
    13 Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.
    Now she has listen to those lies, and Adam done listened to her, Ohhhh Boi lol. So they hide themselves, but why? Genesis 3:8-17
    8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
    9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
    10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
    11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
    12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
    13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
    14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
    15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
    16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
    17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
    God was IN the Garden of Eden. That is the reason they hid. They heard HIM walking and talking. If HE was sitting up just looking down, it wouldn't make sense. What did HE do next? HE called out for him, and asked where he was. Like HE really didn't know lol. You can't outsmart God my people. So Adam comes out saying they hid because they were naked. We know what happens next, the scriptures just said it. But what some miss in these scriptures, is how Adam could have stopped all this had he told Eve to go sit her ass down somewhere. Knowing they wasn't supposed to eat from that dam tree, but he didn't. So woman got cursed with labor pains, and everybody now has to work. We wasn't suppose to work in the creation, but mom and dad wanted to be hardheaded and disobedient, so now we must awake daily and goto work. I know some of yall are thinking, "I knew it was a reason I don't like to work", lol tongue Let's skip down to verses 22-24...
    22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
    23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
    24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
    Now man is put out the Garden, because God don't want him in HIS presence and he might learn how to live forever with no effort. Now how do you live forever? We are going to go to I John 2:15-17
    15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
    17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
    We're not talking about the physical death anymore, we're talking spiritual death, immortality!! What must you do? I'll tell you what you must not do. You must not be in this world for one. Those pagan holidays, and talking down, or hating, is a no no. We must find out what the will of God is to live forever. Remember, we still dealing with God the SON, and I'll show you how come in a minute. But let's see what God the SON says HIS will is. John 6:38-40
    38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
    39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
    40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Well we already see that this is still God the SON for one. For two, HE didn't come to do HIS own will, but the FATHER'S will. You have to have faith and believe in the SON, and although you may die a physical death, HE will raise you up on the LAST day. It did not say when you die you float off to heaven. Raise you up on the last day!!

    Now we are going to see what prophecy was saying about the SON. Isaiah 53:1-3
    Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
    2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
    3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    Isaiah is telling how when HE comes, He will not be desirable. You will have to have faith. HE was not going to come and everyone desired to follow HIM. Either believe or not. Choice is yours. Same as it is today. And just like today, we run for HIS Word and hide our faces. Still some stiffnecked people eh. We need to be running toward HIM, not from HIM. Look how stiffnecked our ancestors were Israel. John 1:10-11
    10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
    Isaiah had already said we were going to do this, and Israel did just that. Did not accept our KING. And we were told many times HE was here before and how. Let's look back.... Exodus 24:9-11
    9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
    10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
    11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
    Looook!! Moses and 73 others went up, saw HIM, and ate and drink with him. This was after being lead out of Egypt. For those still in doubt on who this is, Paul tell em... I Corinthians 10:1-4
    Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
    2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
    3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
    4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
    That's as simple as simple can get. Remember the cloud that guiding them out in Exodus, God the SON. Ain't nothing changed. Wanna know how we know it's been the SON this entire time, other than the reasons already presented. Read John 1:18
    18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
    Okkkkkkkkkkk, soooooooo, no man has EVER seen the FATHER. Who does that leave us with left? Yeaup, you guessed it, THE SON!! But why did HE come if HE is GOD? Hebrews 10:1-7,10
    1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
    2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
    3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
    4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
    5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
    6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
    7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God
    HE came as a sin offering, because the blood of bulls and goats could not take away man's sins. The bulls and goats had not sinned, but man did. Therefore a sin offering had to be made. Why a sin offering, because the wages of sin is death, so something had to die. This is the law that ended when HE came into the world and sacrificed HIMSELF. Please stop believing that you do not have to keep the old law. The grace that HE gave you was the right to repent for your sins. That does not mean you can just sin willfully. i.e. Not keeping ALL the commandments, celebrating pagan holidays and not keeping the Holy Days.... That's like saying since the president pardoned you for murder and you're now a free man, it's ok for you to kill again. The biblical definition of sin is the transgression of the law. If there is no law, how does one sin then? Think about it.... Last example right here to show you how the SON has been here all along. John 8:52-58
    52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
    53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
    55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
    56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
    57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
    58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    This is where my ancestors, just as Isaiah had prophesied they would do, didn't want to believe HE was who HE said HE was. That called HIM the devil. Then asked was HE greater than their father Abraham. Look what HE said,"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day". Now they like, "You ain't even fitty, how in the hell did you see our father Abraham"? And what did HE say, "Before Abraham was, I AM!! That's because HE was here since the beginning. Don't take my word for it, the book will tell you itself. Exodus 3:13-15
    13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
    14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
    15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
    **Drops to my knees and screams HalleluYAH**
    So the next time you hear someone attempt to make that comparison, please inform them that none of those other deities created us, but THE SON DID!!



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