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    Post  gdubbmx Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:59 pm

    While I am as appalled at the Connecticut shooting as everyone else, it really disgusts me how the politicians, namely the Pres. have taken the opportunity to grandstand, and extort the deaths of these children to go after the second amendment. Most of us know the administration HATES the fact that about 50% of all households in America have at least one firearm on the premises. While the tragedy is just that, a tragedy, the gun DID NOT shoot itself. The man behind the gun loaded the weapon and pulled the trigger. The second amendment was put into place by our founding fathers to protect we the people from exactly what the federal govt. is becoming, a dictatorship. Obama has signed quite a few executive orders, without letting our congress (the real lawmakers) even see them. He has declared wars without congressional approval, which is illegal. Only congress can authorize an act of war (ie bombing a country, such as Libya), but he continues to sidestep them despite threats of impeachment. He has lied to us COUNTLESS times about the NDAA, the health care act, taxes, jobs growth, the list is a mile long. He has raised our national deficit ONE TRILLION dollars per year, in the first 4 years of his administration. We are headed for bankruptcy VERY quickly. Under no president have we as a country ever lost our AAA credit rating. He sure made his mark in history, didn't he? Not that any other presidents were all great, but he sure has them beat on many fronts. They have brainwashed half of the people as to what constitutes an assault weapon, when the definition of such weapons is quite clear to people who know what the actual definition is.

    If we continue to allow these people to slowly, but surely usurp our rights and liberties, we will be no better off than any other communist country. They do not seem to understand that you cannot ban crazy. You cannot ban evil. You cannot ban people, and their thought process. If you take away a person's God given, inalienable right to defend themselves, you create a submissive society in which violence and crime are free to breed. Take, for example the "gun-free zone" signs out side of our schools. What does this impress upon a would-be predator? It tells them there is nothing to stop them from acquiring their prey, and doing as they freely choose. There is a famous quote by one of our founders, Benjamin Franklin, who states "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty". This holds true more than ever today. The government cannot protect your safety, and anyone who tells you different is either a liar, or a simpleton.

    This government, like many before it, wants us disarmed so they can have complete control. That is how a dictatorship works. There is no turning back if we allow them to take away our rights, especially the right of not only self preservation, but defense against tyranny, the very essence of total power. Freedom is a God given birthright, not a privilege granted by a politician, we need to remember that. When I stand before my creator on my judgement day, I want to be sure I at the very least stood with the side of right in the face of tyranny and oppression.

    I would urge anyone that thinks the second amendment should be done away with to first ponder this: If a person armed with a gun enters your home with ill intent towards you and your family, how would you defend against them? Remember, there is no second amendment anymore because you voted to repeal it (hypothetically), how would you defend yourself and family against certain death?


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    Post  ___Disobey Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:36 pm

    I gotta tell you, if Americans don't put a fight, if the NRA does not put a fight. We're pretty much doomed. Gun control is not the answer. Just look at Chicago and New York, two major cities banning guns and the crime rate is horrifying. As for Connecticut, its the fourth state with the most effective gun control law and its really hard to get a gun! We must unite and defend what's left of the constitution.
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    Post  Raspy Rawls Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:24 am

    Someone on IG posted that the NRA is supposed to hold a press conference or some shyt on the 21st. I pray these muh fukrs do not flip sides. This shyt has me kinda wondering, cause you know if they flip, things will get ugly!!!
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    Post  Sincerely_Gabe Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:01 am

    My brothers & sisters I hate to be the bearer of bad news but things are going to get alot worse before they get better. Alot of blood will be shed, the majority will beg for the new world order. Its inevitable. This whole 2nd amendment can be played out in many different ways. Just keep your faith, st afro ay vigilant, persistent, & love one another...
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    Post  Raspy Rawls Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:18 am

    [b]IF WE GON BAN GUNS, WE GOTTA BAN EVERYTHING ELSE TOO EHHere we go with the gun control crap..... Ban_ev10
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    Post  Sincerely_Gabe Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:45 am

    lol!
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    Post  Constitutionalobligations Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:35 am

    I dont care what im told, i do what i feel is right in my heart. I urge everyone to do the same. I WILL NOT be handing over my arms to anyone but family! Hide them, bury them, store them in a safe manner, in a safe place to be gathered at a later date when needed. This is not going to just go away, this force that is against us is here to stay until the time comes and we literally fight back. Im ready for that fight, im ready to die defending my family, freedom, and the true meaning of being an American.
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    Post  Shooter Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:24 pm

    Personally not fond of guns because of personal experience, but taking away legal arms isn't going to stop the crazies , criminals or terrorists they just laugh at that stuff.
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    Post  MsBlyy Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:59 pm

    Sincerely_Gabe wrote:My brothers & sisters I hate to be the bearer of bad news but things are going to get alot worse before they get better. Alot of blood will be shed, the majority will beg for the new world order. Its inevitable. This whole 2nd amendment can be played out in many different ways. Just keep your faith, st afro ay vigilant, persistent, & love one another...



    <<<I Definitely Agree With" Sincerely_Gabe". I Do Feel It's Inevitable That People Are Digging They're Own Graves. My Mother Is Even Wanting Them To Ban Guns & Im Like How Could You Let Them Put Fear In Your Heart And A Gun Is Your Only Weapon Against ANYONE. How Can You Feel Secure? I'm More Paranoid About It Because I Don't Expect Our Military To Protect Us When That "Time" Comes, Other Than My Fiance Being In The Military I Have No Chance.
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    Post  vibrationsrising Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:43 am

    First off I want to start out by saying I have not yet looked any of this Gun Control up myself but fully intend to. Normally I do not speak on anything I didn't myself read up on. But....lol the posts I have seen on IG concerning this matter mainly come from Instagram users whom I respect and I know they researched what they posted.
    Ok. Now WTF??!! Is it an outright ban? Like we if registered are supposed to just hand shit over??? Or are there more regulations for registered owners? Either way, dumb idea you corporate elite cowards!!! Guns are not the problem. They don't want to strip away our 2nd amendment for the hood of America the "free". These cowards want us left as vulnerable and defenseless as possible! So much will go wrong with this. History (history they gave us) tells us so. Again and again. Yup, just like sincerelgabe said....people are going to beg for the new world order. Simply because they are pumped with fear, brainwashed and/or simply don't know better. Keep positive guys....shit will get worse but evil never wins. We cannot let it. Now, let me log off and read up on this myself lol.
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    Post  vibrationsrising Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:44 am

    whoops....good not hood
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    Post  Nykki P Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:27 am

    Maybe thats whts planned for the 21st Martial Law ir something of the sort? Question
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    Post  hinesmama Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:43 pm

    Waiting until the NRA press conference is done tomorrow to further speculate on where gun control is headed. Keep in mind as long as there are Republicans in the House of Representatives and the NRA is in existence, we will maintain the right to bear arms. We might see stricter regulation, and I agree with that. There should be a more stringent screening process in order to purchase a firearm. I have not succumbed to the conspiracy hysteria on this issue simply because of the plausibility of the government actually repealing the second amendment. Not very plausible anytime soon. And for the record, not everything posted on IG, meme's, are accurate or educated. You have to use discernment as well even with the folks who claim they are "awake".
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    Post  HamzahJL Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:04 am

    I guess I'll put in my 2 cents. Gun control, gun control, gun control. What really is gun control? Its been a ban on automatic assault rifles for years now but 9 out of 10 ppl in the hood I reside got AK's. I have never seen a 100 round clip in a gun store, but I have never seen the 35 round clip they sell in the gun store on the street either. In my lifetime I have owned a fair share of firearms (pistols, shotguns, AK's, SK's, FN's) but have never purchased one out the store. In my opinion the hardest group to be effected will the ppl who legally purchase them. The ban on guns will enforced with the same tenacity as the ban on heroin, and we all know how that's holding up. The political posturing going right now aint gone amount to shit.
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    Post  gdubbmx Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:37 am

    hinesmama wrote:Waiting until the NRA press conference is done tomorrow to further speculate on where gun control is headed. Keep in mind as long as there are Republicans in the House of Representatives and the NRA is in existence, we will maintain the right to bear arms. We might see stricter regulation, and I agree with that. There should be a more stringent screening process in order to purchase a firearm. I have not succumbed to the conspiracy hysteria on this issue simply because of the plausibility of the government actually repealing the second amendment. Not very plausible anytime soon. And for the record, not everything posted on IG, meme's, are accurate or educated. You have to use discernment as well even with the folks who claim they are "awake".

    I must respectfully disagree. The Republicans are no better than the Democrats when it comes to pushing political agenda. In my opinion, they put up just enough of a fight to make it seem as though they are on the side of the people, when in reality, they crave the power just as much as the Dems. As far as the govt. repealing the 2A, it may not happen anytime soon, but the legislation they pass is slowly chipping away at it. They can't do it all at once because they are aware that civil war would certainly begin, but done incrementally, many people fail to notice until it is too late. Background checks are performed on EVERY legal new gun transaction in the country, and most states employ a waiting period for handgun purchases. Stricter regulation will do NOTHING to stop someone from breaking the law. I think we can all agree that criminals do not follow gun restrictions. The 2A covers the right to keep and bear arms, it places no restrictions on what type of arms the people can bear. I would hardly call the TSA, patriot act, NDAA, agenda 21, and many other pieces of legislation "conspiracy hysteria". The documentation is indeed on the official websites for the public to read. That said, I don't particularly agree that people "need" automatic weapons, but I also do not believe it should be up to the feds to decide. That is why the 10th amendment was put in place.


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    Post  Raspy Rawls Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:55 pm

    I agree Gdubb, they are the same. I call em wrestlers lol. They beef on camera, but behind closed doors they buddy buddy. But yo check this out, I went and and got some info on what happened to citizens once they are disarmed.....


    Ottoman Turkey 1915-1917 Armenians
    (mostly Christians) 1-1.5 million Art. 166, Pen. Code, 1866
    & 1911 Proclamation, 1915 • Permits required •Government list of owners
    •Ban on possession
    Soviet Union 1929-1945 Political opponents;
    farming communities 20 million Resolutions, 1918
    Decree, July 12, 1920
    Art. 59 & 182, Pen. code, 1926 •Licensing of owners
    •Ban on possession
    •Severe penalties

    Nazi Germany
    & Occupied Europe 1933-1945 Political opponents;
    Jews; Gypsies;
    critics; "examples" 20 million Law on Firearms & Ammun., 1928
    Weapon Law, March 18, 1938
    Regulations against Jews, 1938 •Registration & Licensing
    •Stricter handgun laws
    •Ban on possession
    China, Nationalist 1927-1949 Political opponents;
    army conscripts; others 10 million Art. 205, Crim. Code, 1914
    Art. 186-87, Crim. Code, 1935 •Government permit system
    •Ban on private ownership

    China, Red 1949-1952
    1957-1960
    1966-1976 Political opponents;
    Rural populations
    Enemies of the state 20-35 million Act of Feb. 20, 1951
    Act of Oct. 22, 1957 •Prison or death to "counter-revolutionary criminals" and anyone resisting any government program
    •Death penalty for supply guns to such "criminals"
    Guatemala 1960-1981 Mayans & other Indians;
    political enemies 100,000-
    200,000 Decree 36, Nov 25 •Act of 1932
    Decree 386, 1947
    Decree 283, 1964 •Register guns & owners •Licensing with high fees
    •Prohibit carrying guns
    •Bans on guns, sharp tools
    •Confiscation powers

    Uganda 1971-1979 Christians
    Political enemies 300,000 Firearms Ordinance, 1955
    Firearms Act, 1970 •Register all guns & owners •Licenses for transactions
    •Warrantless searches •Confiscation powers
    Cambodia
    (Khmer Rouge) 1975-1979 Educated Persons;
    Political enemies 2 million Art. 322-328, Penal Code
    Royal Ordinance 55, 1938 •Licenses for guns, owners, ammunition & transactions
    •Photo ID with fingerprints
    •License inspected quarterly

    Rwanda 1994 Tutsi people 800,000 Decree-Law No. 12, 1979 •Register guns, owners, ammunition •Owners must justify need •Concealable guns illegal •Confiscating powers[quote]
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    Post  Lovelace777 Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:07 pm

    They just want us to be defenseless. I'm just really pissed their killing innocent people and framing prescription drug buyers.
    [ow they going to blame guns when the person who supposedly went crazy is said to be on goverment approved drugs? Huh????b] Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad confused confused
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    Post  Lovelace777 Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:06 pm

    Think about the fact that if they ban any type if gun it might just give them just cause to do random searches of our homes. With the lie of just looking for weapons. That is an open door to many violations. Mad

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